I Detest End Times Nonsense!

Please take the time to read this and see if I make any sense, see if what I am saying is supported by scripture. Please read through the scriptures I have put in this letter to you and think about the history I refer to and then weigh it all up. You cannot believe how many people, over the last hundred and eighty years, have been terribly discouraged because of nonsensical end time messages. First some scriptures.

Last Days? Peter, Paul and James were all speaking to people who were living in the last days? Yes! What about the end of the world or the end of the age?

Acts 2:15 These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 "'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams."

1 Pet 1:20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. (NIV)

Heb 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.

James 5:3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days.

(Two translations)

1 Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. (KJV)

1 Cor 10:11 These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. (NIV)

These verses have been speaking of an end of a world or the end of an age or the last days, but following we see a contrast. The world is not to end. Here Paul speaks of Christ's ministry lasting for ages and ages or world without end.

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Eph 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen. (KJV)

Eph 3:20 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, 21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen. (NIV)

Then again - Christ appeared at the time of the end of the ages? What age or what world? (Two translations.)

Heb 9:26 Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. (NIV)

Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. (KJV)

In these verses we see that Christ came in the end of an age, in the end of a world, not the end of the whole world. Then we see that his ministry would continue on for ages and ages or world without end. I understand that these verses may have never been brought to your attention. However they are very important. There are more. When is Christ's kingdom to be set up? Sometime in the future? Or has it already been set up?

Matt 16:28 I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (NIV)

Mark 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. (KJV)

Luke 9:27 I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God." (NIV)

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Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you. (KJV)

Luke 11:20 But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come to you. (NIV)

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Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, (KJV)

Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, (NIV)

It would be so wonderful if Bible teachers would keep these verses in context. They were all written in the first century and given to the Church in the first century. That fact is inseparable from the meaning and proper interpretation of these verses and must be taken into account so as to keep them in context.

We have all heard of the rapture. It cannot be supported by scripture as it is commonly preached.

Do you remember Corrie Ten Boom? Read about her.


She was not happy with the way the rapture was being presented. She had ended up naked in a filthy concentration camp. Her sister died there. Millions of Christians not only died under the rule of Hitler, but also in Russia and China under Communism. Millions of Christians have, both in the past and still now, died in Africa and many under the rule of Islamic extremists. Many of them have been taught that they would be caught up to meet Christ just before the Great Tribulation. Do you see a problem here? I pray to God that you open your eyes. We Christians who live in free countries are being fed a fantasy and we swallow it without ever blinking an eye. We have been lied to, period.

The cemeteries all over the world are filled with sinners and a few saints, but we keep looking forward to being taken out of this world before terrible things happen. We are believing in a lie. Can you even imagine what it is like to believe this and then seeing your whole family and your friends being hacked to death. What would happen to your faith? Do you really think a hope in a future return of Christ is going to comfort you while you endure such a horrible calamity? Are you so caught up in end time madness that you actually think, the so called, soon return of Christ, is above and beyond and greater then having Him in your heart?

I try to talk people out of thinking this is the end times and they do not want to even think about anything but that it is about to happen. They rest in the thought that things have to get worse and worse so Jesus will come back. This releases them from being responsible for making a better world. Over 1/2 of all Christians do not vote. I was and still am fortunate, because I do not believe in this nonsense.

On a Sunday night after hearing his Grand mother preach, Billy Manson went forward in Church and knelt and began sobbing. His brother, Patrick was down there to but had went forward a few months prior to this. I led Billy to the Lord - he could only nod his head, he was sobbing so hard. He repented. Karin was down there that same night. Their mother had tears streaming down her face. Three days later they were gone.

End times messages are evil. My family went to be with the Lord. They are not waiting for some kind of a physical resurrection, they have their new bodies now. We are encompassed about by many witnesses. We are presently setting down with Abraham Isaac and Jacob. The wicked are on the outside knashing their teeth.

I think we should be crying, travailing and praying for revival. What I see around me is Christians having a good time and into fun things and every so often they seem to wake up a little bit and look around and say "it sure is getting bad, but the bible says things will wax worse and worse." What a bunch of garbage. Just try to tell them Jesus is here and they swallow a little bit and then admit - yes He is here in my heart. In doing this they act as if this is good to have Him in your heart, but it will be better when He comes down and fixes everything by setting up an earthly kingdom. This is a bunch of rot!

We are the ones who have to fix things.

The ultimate, the thing He came to do, was to set up His kingdom in the hearts of His people. His emphasis was put on our being moral people and being filled with God. Oh! Oh! I said a bad word. (Moral, that's as bad as being holy or righteous, terrible terrible!)

John 14:22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?" 23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. 25 "All this I have spoken while still with you. (NIV)

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. (KJV)

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (KJV)

It does not say "he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also raise you up from the dead."

Please remember we have already been made to walk in newness of life, we have already been resurrected, in a spiritual sense, and that is the ultimate in this life.


Vern Manson Sunday, March 01, 2009

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